Hello all - my first time playing (Debian package 0.4.4-2 SVN 7640)
How do I filter the list of planets so that I can only see colonisable ones? The filter "Species can colonise" does nothing, there is no drop-down list of species (same with "Species can build ships"). Other filters work (star type, planet size etc.).
Is this a known bug? Am I doing something wrong?
Thanks,
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How do I list colonisable planets?
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Re: How do I list colonisable planets?
They work, no dropdown needed-- they show all planets/ships/whatever whose species is capable of either colonizing or shipbuilding, respectively.Magnate wrote:The filter "Species can colonise" does nothing, there is no drop-down list of species (same with "Species can build ships"). Is this a known bug? Am I doing something wrong?
That exact filter is currently not implemented; one of the devs has started on it but the initial implementation at least was extremely cpu hungry. The closest thing right now is is to be aware of the environmental preferences of the species you want to consider, and then filter by Planet Type, starting with whatever is 'Good' for your species, then trying any 'Adequate' types, and perhaps also the 'Poor' types. You can also/instead add new column info via right-click on an empty column header; I usually add Planet-Type and Size-as-Number, which can be helpful for sorting.How do I filter the list of planets so that I can only see colonisable ones? Other filters work (star type, planet size etc.).
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Re: How do I list colonisable planets?
Thanks, that's a good idea.Dilvish wrote:They work, no dropdown needed-- they show all planets/ships/whatever whose species is capable of either colonizing or shipbuilding, respectively.Magnate wrote:The filter "Species can colonise" does nothing, there is no drop-down list of species (same with "Species can build ships"). Is this a known bug? Am I doing something wrong?
That exact filter is currently not implemented; one of the devs has started on it but the initial implementation at least was extremely cpu hungry. The closest thing right now is is to be aware of the environmental preferences of the species you want to consider, and then filter by Planet Type, starting with whatever is 'Good' for your species, then trying any 'Adequate' types, and perhaps also the 'Poor' types. You can also/instead add new column info via right-click on an empty column header; I usually add Planet-Type and Size-as-Number, which can be helpful for sorting.How do I filter the list of planets so that I can only see colonisable ones? Other filters work (star type, planet size etc.).
I had to read the two parts of your answer a few times - are you saying that the filter *wouldn't* need a drop down if it was working? It doesn't filter out planets I can't colonise, so I guess the second half is the important bit!
Thanks again.
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Re: How do I list colonisable planets?
The filters work fine, but they don't do what you want / expect.Magnate wrote:...are you saying that the filter *wouldn't* need a drop down if it was working? It doesn't filter out planets I can't colonise, so I guess the second half is the important bit!
Re: How do I list colonisable planets?
I'm sorry I'm being dim, but I really don't understand how it is working. Gas giants aren't colonisable for any species, right? So how come they don't disappear from the list when I apply this filter? The obvious meaning of "Species Can Colonise" is "MY species can colonise NOW", and it definitely isn't doing that. I'd love to know what it is doing.Geoff the Medio wrote:The filters work fine, but they don't do what you want / expect.Magnate wrote:...are you saying that the filter *wouldn't* need a drop down if it was working? It doesn't filter out planets I can't colonise, so I guess the second half is the important bit!
Instead of doing this with a filter, would it be possible to do it as a "Target Pop for [species]" column instead?
Re: How do I list colonisable planets?
Ah, well, my assertion that they were working was indeed wrong, sorry about that, and thanks for persisting. It's fixed now in SVN, will be available in the next weekly build. I think that on a Debian system you should be able to get that with a modest bit of work, if you want.Magnate wrote:Gas giants aren't colonisable for any species, right? So how come they don't disappear from the list when I apply this filter?
That's the thing I was referring to one of the Devs working on.Instead of doing this with a filter, would it be possible to do it as a "Target Pop for [species]" column instead?
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Re: How do I list colonisable planets?
I think that due to a bug in the GUI code, that condition does nothing at all when selected as a filter.Magnate wrote:So how come they don't disappear from the list when I apply this filter?
That is not the obvious meaning, because there is no such thing as "MY species". Empires and species are independent, and a given empire, including the players, can have populations of many different species in it.The obvious meaning of "Species Can Colonise" is "MY species can colonise NOW"...
What it's supposed to do is show planets or ships, or buildings on planets, that have a species that is able to colonize planets. Not all species can produce colony ships. Ships or planets with species that can't colonize, or with no species, would be hidden by the condition.I'd love to know what it is doing.
It could be coded, but the GUI to support arbitrary species hypothetical values for arbitrary meters would probably be problematic......would it be possible to do it as a "Target Pop for [species]" column instead?