Few flaws in 0.4.4 7768

[codekiddy]

Hello guys, I'm on turn 233 and discovered few flaws that seems like wrong, I hope it will help you..

1. a building "solar orbital generator" is supposed to give 0.4, 0.2 and 0.1 industry boost to supply line connected industry focused planets, depending on sun type...
by observing bonuses on various systems it looks like this applied bonuses are not correct.
for example a yellow start system with with 20 population planet is supposed to receive 20 x 0.2 = +4 industry but the bonus was +8

2. multiple technologies are unlocking the same building type... for example in ships tree:
"mono-cellurar expansion" is unlocked by "contrieved symbiosis" and both technologies are unlocking cellurar growth chamber building. it seems strange to unlock something that is already unlocked.

3. in construction tree a technology "organic structures" has a link "transfomer" which displays a pedia entry, links in pedia entries are dead, clicking on them doesn't open anything.

4. pedia entry: graph "planets bombed" doesn't display how much planets the AI or a player bombed, all lines are 0.

5. colonizing a planet that is about to be depopulated by contrencation camps in the same turn will result in failed colonization,
this probably seems logical, I colonized a planet while contrentration camp was still present in current turn, next turn it was gone as well as my population that colonized a planet resulting in depopulated planet.

Please excuse me if I misinterpreted something, and let me know if I'm wrong with above observations.
and yes, 7768 looks more stable to me than release one.

[mem359]

The programmers can give you a definitive answer.
As another player, here are some of my thoughts:

1. a building "solar orbital generator" is supposed to give 0.4, 0.2 and 0.1 industry boost to supply line connected industry focused planets, depending on sun type...
by observing bonuses on various systems it looks like this applied bonuses are not correct.
for example a yellow start system with with 20 population planet is supposed to receive 20 x 0.2 = +4 industry but the bonus was +8

The bonus is for the system that the solar orbital generator is built in, not the sun type of the planet receiving the bonus. Most likely your empire has a system somewhere with a white or blue star with a solar generator. (You might have conquered an AI planet.)

5. colonizing a planet that is about to be depopulated by contrencation camps in the same turn will result in failed colonization,
this probably seems logical, I colonized a planet while contrentration camp was still present in current turn, next turn it was gone as well as my population that colonized a planet resulting in depopulated planet.

Right, as long as the "concentration camp remnants" icon is showing for that planet, population will decrease by 3. I keep an eye on that planet and wait until the icon is gone before using the colony ship.

[Dilvish]

on the things mem359 has not already answered...

2. multiple technologies are unlocking the same building type... for example in ships tree:
"mono-cellurar expansion" is unlocked by "contrieved symbiosis" and both technologies are unlocking cellurar growth chamber building. it seems strange to unlock something that is already unlocked.

There is (slow) ongoing work on ship hulls & related tech progression. Since there is in many of those cases some uncertainty about whether an underlying path will necessarily remain required, some/many of them might still unlock an extra, currently predecessor level, of shipyard; a minor redundancy to improve reliability.

3. in construction tree a technology "organic structures" has a link "transfomer" which displays a pedia entry, links in pedia entries are dead, clicking on them doesn't open anything.

Good catch, that was using the link type for specific buildings rather then general building types; it's fixed now.

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r7769 | dilvish-fo | 2014-11-19 12:09:06 -0800 (Wed, 19 Nov 2014) | 1 line
fixed pedia hotlinks in entry for Transformer building

4. pedia entry: graph "planets bombed" doesn't display how much planets the AI or a player bombed, all lines are 0.

If yopu have reason to believe that such information was incorrect then you should specify such or the comment is not very useful. The AI doesn't currently engage in any bombardments. Had you engaged in any in that game?

[codekiddy]

1. a building "solar orbital generator" is supposed to give 0.4, 0.2 and 0.1 industry boost to supply line connected industry focused planets, depending on sun type...
by observing bonuses on various systems it looks like this applied bonuses are not correct.
for example a yellow start system with with 20 population planet is supposed to receive 20 x 0.2 = +4 industry but the bonus was +8

The bonus is for the system that the solar orbital generator is built in, not the sun type of the planet receiving the bonus. Most likely your empire has a system somewhere with a white or blue star with a solar generator. (You might have conquered an AI planet.)

Oh, thanks, I see now

4. pedia entry: graph "planets bombed" doesn't display how much planets the AI or a player bombed, all lines are 0.

If yopu have reason to believe that such information was incorrect then you should specify such or the comment is not very useful. The AI doesn't currently engage in any bombardments. Had you engaged in any in that game?

sorry for that, I thought bombarding a system is the same as bombing, I actually didn't discover nova bomb tech which is probably the one to bomb a system?

[MatGB]

Not exactly, bombarbment is a new mechanic that we haven't scripted much with currently, only bio spores and death spores use it and the AI isn't set to use them. Bombardment isn't the same as simply using standard ship weapons to take out shields/infrastructure.

At some point it'd be good if a xenophobic AI used the orbital death stuff instead of landing troops and concentration camping everything, but currently it's too unreliable as only organic species can be hit by the effects, it's on My List, but it's fairly low down and I've not been doing much recently.

So that graph will remain empty unless you use death spores or you're playing multiplayer and another player is daft enough to think they're a good idea.