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 Post subject: Player Missions
PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:58 pm 
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We should have an option like in Risk to give each player a mission that they have to carry out in order to win.
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-Conquer 3 races.
-Sustain peace between 2 races for 60 minutes.
-Protect the race with lowest tech.
-Protect your neighbour.
-Colonise 100 worlds.
-Capture 75 enemy worlds.
-Kill the most distant enemy.
-Sustain an alliance with 5 players for 30 minutes.
-Research 80% of the tech tree.
-Steal 50 enemy technologies.
-Find 5 'special' artifacts hidden on planets throughout the galaxy.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 3:46 am 
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I think this is better adressed by victory conditions, so each player actually chooses his path or a combination of them. Nevertheless, more diversity on these conditions is always good.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 6:43 am 
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It is a victory condition thing. Basically you would choose the 'mission' style victory condition. Each player would be given a random mission. No player would no the others mission. The player who completes their mission wins.


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Isn't this kinda how cosmic encounter works?

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utilae wrote:
It is a victory condition thing. Basically you would choose the 'mission' style victory condition. Each player would be given a random mission. No player would no the others mission. The player who completes their mission wins.


Might be hard to balance them IMHO

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Pasi wrote:
utilae wrote:
It is a victory condition thing. Basically you would choose the 'mission' style victory condition. Each player would be given a random mission. No player would no the others mission. The player who completes their mission wins.


Might be hard to balance them IMHO


Yes... I remember risk.
If your Task as "Colour X" is to conquer Europe and South America, and your neigbours tasks are:

-Player One: Flaten "Colour X"
-Player Two: Conquer Europe and Y
-Player Three: Conquer South America and Z

You will have no chance...
All neigbours are your Natural enemy. In 70% of the games Player One will win. No Strategic skills needed, pure game of chance with the tasks.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:35 pm 
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Even if missions are difficult to achieve, at least it will probably be more challening then fighting the hardest AI level.


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 Post subject: Missions and Winning Conditions
PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 11:20 am 
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Hi,

In my opinion the game should not be "won". The game should never end.

I think there should be many "victory conditions" that would orient players in a certain path. And once it is achieved, a special event like a video of something is triggered. However, players should be free to continue playing looking for acomplishing other objectives.

In multiplayer games, once a player has achieved a "victory condition", the opposition should continue battling to take him out of that.

Example given, in a 4 player-game, once a player achieve the Emperor status by conquering X% of the galaxy, the other players should stick together to counter that power.

Well... that's it, in my opinion.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 11:28 am 
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There could be an option that prevents a victory from ending the game. For the mission victory conditions, it would make it so that if a player achieves a victory condition (conquer X% of galaxy) the other players could gang together and take that guy down. However, in a mission based victory condition, I am not sure that the mission victories will have much signifigance if a victory does not mean ending the game.


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I've always kind of felt that the only real "victory condition" is complete and utter control of the galaxy. Until then, other nations always have the potential to fight back.

In MoO2, I always felt like killing the Antarans was a cheap way to win, though that was mostly because the computer players weren't able to beat them.

I think that a reward system is the best way to manage it. For example, the reward for acquiring the coveted "Orion" system is being able to use it to your advantage.

As far as objectives such as "Sustain peace between 2 races for 60 minutes", perhaps such objectives could be controlled by social/racial models and generated somewhat randomly? Perhaps it could be tied to controlling/reducing civil unrest.


And where rewards don't work, I think that a well-tweaked scoring system would help to push people in the right direction.


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