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 Post subject: Scrollable Focus Droplist
PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:08 am 
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As you can see from this image, it is sometimes completely impossible to pick the desired focus setting, due to them going plain off the screen. I would have to have a significant number of buildings, then expand the buildings panel if I wanted the sidepanel to be big enough to fit all those focus settings on. Now there may well be too many focus options currently, but I'd still prefer that this UI limitation didn't exist. It would probably be better if a set number - say, 5 - focus settings were visible at any given time, and the list was scrollable via the mousewheel, while mousing-over the focus droplist itself.

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This used to happen to me way too often when there were 5 focus settings. Currently, all four of the focus settings available are selectable, though one is barely visible. Before, if I wanted to choose research focus, but forgot to scroll down after opening the resource sub-panel, I would have to click out of the focus droplist, scroll down, then open the focus droplist again to select research. This is because when I initially opened the droplist, the research focus was off the bottom of the screen, inaccessible to the mouse. It would be nice if, even while the focus droplist is open, the mousewheel could be used to scroll down the sidepanel (while the sidepanel - not the focus droplist itself - is being moused-over).

And while I'm ranting about mousewheel functionality, there are these little spaces in between the planet panels on the system sidepanel, and if you put the mouse there, using the mousewheel will zoom in/out of the galaxy map instead of scrolling the sidepanel. Sometimes, while I'm scrolling the sidepanel, it will move in such a way that one of those little spaces will move under my mouse, and I'll start zooming the map, rather than scrolling the sidepanel. If those little spaces could be removed/treated as a section of the sidepanel (with 100% transparancy) so that mousing over them is considered a mouseover of the sidepanel rather than the galaxy map, that would also be useful.

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 Post subject: Re: Scrollable Focus Droplist
PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:26 pm 
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Bigjoe5 wrote:
It would be nice if, even while the focus droplist is open, the mousewheel could be used to scroll down the sidepanel (while the sidepanel - not the focus droplist itself - is being moused-over).

That's not (easily) possible with the current code. The droplist is a "modal" window when it's open, which means that it's the only thing that can respond to user actions until it's closed.

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...there are these little spaces in between the planet panels on the system sidepanel, and if you put the mouse there, using the mousewheel will zoom in/out of the galaxy map instead of scrolling the sidepanel. Sometimes, while I'm scrolling the sidepanel, it will move in such a way that one of those little spaces will move under my mouse, and I'll start zooming the map, rather than scrolling the sidepanel.

Do you mean the blue or red regions in the attached? I can't get the map to scroll in the red regions. The blue regions are intended to let the map scroll... (they expand to larger when planet panels are expanded). If you are having your mouse end up there, try mousewheel-scrolling the sidepanel over the main part, not the planet renders.


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 Post subject: Re: Scrollable Focus Droplist
PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:47 pm 
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Geoff the Medio wrote:
That's not (easily) possible with the current code. The droplist is a "modal" window when it's open, which means that it's the only thing that can respond to user actions until it's closed.
Alright. It's not really a priority yet, so it's probably more trouble than it's worth at this point.

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Do you mean the blue or red regions in the attached?
Blue.

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If you are having your mouse end up there, try mousewheel-scrolling the sidepanel over the main part, not the planet renders.

Umm, no... that's a UI flaw. Do you intend to instruct the player only to mousewheel-scroll over the main part, lest the mouse slip between the planet panels and start zooming the map? In a tooltip, perhaps?

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 Post subject: Re: Scrollable Focus Droplist
PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:53 pm 
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Bigjoe5 wrote:
Do you intend to instruct the player only to mousewheel-scroll over the main part, lest the mouse slip between the planet panels and start zooming the map? In a tooltip, perhaps?

I expect the player to figure out themselves fairly quickly that if they scroll while over the map, even a small bit of it, it won't scroll the sidepanel.


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 Post subject: Re: Scrollable Focus Droplist
PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 7:10 pm 
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Geoff the Medio wrote:
Bigjoe5 wrote:
Do you intend to instruct the player only to mousewheel-scroll over the main part, lest the mouse slip between the planet panels and start zooming the map? In a tooltip, perhaps?

I expect the player to figure out themselves fairly quickly that if they scroll while over the map, even a small bit of it, it won't scroll the sidepanel.
I would expect so as well - and that they would become annoyed fairly quickly when they accidentally start zooming the map instead of scrolling the sidepanel.

Why is it more useful to allow the player to scroll the map through those tiny gaps in the sidepanel than to eliminate those gaps so that the mousewheel scroll over those areas affects the sidepanel rather than the map?

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 Post subject: Re: Scrollable Focus Droplist
PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:22 am 
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I just don't see why anyone would be scrolling the sidepanel when over the planet renders anyway... They aren't there all the time, as there are variable-sized gaps between them, so it's much more standardized to always scroll over the main part with the info panels to the right. And even if you're scrolling over the planet renders, and there's a one or two pixel gap, how often do you accidentally get your mouse in that very small location such that this is even noticable?

I see this as a very trivial problem / non-problem that would require some effort to figure out how best to fix, so don't really want to spend time on it...


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 Post subject: Re: Scrollable Focus Droplist
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Bigjoe5 wrote:
It would probably be better if a set number - say, 5 - focus settings were visible at any given time, and the list was scrollable via the mousewheel, while mousing-over the focus droplist itself.

This is fixed / implemented.


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