Is that true in v0.4.5?Vezzra wrote:IIRC they can only appear if you set monster frequency to medium or high.EricF wrote:Is there a way to turn Experimenters off?
Extremely frustrated player feedback after playing 4.5
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Re: Extremely frustrated player feedback after playing 4.5
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Ah yes, that's a good question. I think that went in the same time we decided to eliminate monsters completely (that is, don't even place the guard monsters) when monsters frequency is set to none. Mat, any idea when we did that...?Geoff the Medio wrote:Is that true in v0.4.5?Vezzra wrote:IIRC they can only appear if you set monster frequency to medium or high.EricF wrote:Is there a way to turn Experimenters off?
Re: Extremely frustrated player feedback after playing 4.5
I'm playing FreeOrion_2016-08-16.6a394b5_Test_Win32_Setup.exe
I've just recently captured the Experimentors Homeworld Whitefall I
You will notice the Monsters setting is 'Low'
I would have eliminated all the AI players long ago if it weren't for those pesky Experimentors.
Nobody told me Psionic Snowflakes can affect you from adjacent systems.
I've just recently captured the Experimentors Homeworld Whitefall I
You will notice the Monsters setting is 'Low'
I would have eliminated all the AI players long ago if it weren't for those pesky Experimentors.
Nobody told me Psionic Snowflakes can affect you from adjacent systems.
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Re: Extremely frustrated player feedback after playing 4.5
Where is the code or script that creates experimentors? I haven't been able to find any references to them other than the species definition, but I'm not sure where else to look.
Re: Extremely frustrated player feedback after playing 4.5
Monsters, the Experimentor Outpost/Experiment Zero is the main determinant of where they start, and then Buildings for the Outpost that does the heavy lifting once they're placed.
They can/will appear on monsters=low, but not monsters=none. In addition they're unlikely to appear if you have lots of AI homeworlds or starlanes=high due to the limitations on where they can start. Plus their start turn (in buildings) is determined by a large variety of factors, adding in monster density as an extra reduction would be a good approach there.
It would be good I think to try to get there starting setup redone so they're part of galaxy generation and a distinct 'victory condition' option on the game setup screen earlier rather than later in the next Cycle, but it's way beyond my coding ability.
They can/will appear on monsters=low, but not monsters=none. In addition they're unlikely to appear if you have lots of AI homeworlds or starlanes=high due to the limitations on where they can start. Plus their start turn (in buildings) is determined by a large variety of factors, adding in monster density as an extra reduction would be a good approach there.
It would be good I think to try to get there starting setup redone so they're part of galaxy generation and a distinct 'victory condition' option on the game setup screen earlier rather than later in the next Cycle, but it's way beyond my coding ability.
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Re: Extremely frustrated player feedback after playing 4.5
Huh... for some reason I thought they were already handled by special-case python code in the universe generation scripts.MatGB wrote:Monsters, the Experimentor Outpost/Experiment Zero is the main determinant of where they start, and then Buildings for the Outpost that does the heavy lifting once they're placed.
Re: Extremely frustrated player feedback after playing 4.5
We've been mentioned this quite a lot, but nothing got done in that department yet.Geoff the Medio wrote:Huh... for some reason I thought they were already handled by special-case python code in the universe generation scripts.MatGB wrote:Monsters, the Experimentor Outpost/Experiment Zero is the main determinant of where they start, and then Buildings for the Outpost that does the heavy lifting once they're placed.
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Re: Extremely frustrated player feedback after playing 4.5
I would suggest calming down and asking more specific questions rather than ranting. I too suspect that the reason you're losing colonies is that you are placing them on planets that can't sustain them. An early experience I had was taking worlds from AIs, only to have the colonies fail. The AIs had higher growth tech than I did.
You haven't responded to as to whether you know how to check the habitability of planets for specific species.
You haven't responded to as to whether you know how to check the habitability of planets for specific species.