request: starship renderings

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request: starship renderings

#1 Post by miu » Thu Apr 01, 2004 9:18 pm

We'll need starship pictures in 0.2 for scout, markI-IV and defense base. These will be shown at planetary view. Renders at 250x150. Icons for those ships will be these made by KA: http://3dtowns.at/freeorion/index.html so use them as reference.
No poly limits, no limits for texturing and effects - make them look good :)
2d-drawings accepted as well.
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#2 Post by pd » Thu Apr 01, 2004 10:03 pm

i think we should use placeholders for this until we are creating race specific ships.

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#3 Post by miu » Thu Apr 01, 2004 10:11 pm

good that you said. Yes, these very probaply won't be in final version of Free Orion, but are needed in 0.2. (and I know there are people here eager to model spaceships, this is your change). And if these are done well, its possible to them later as base for ships for one race.
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#4 Post by Satyagraha » Sat Apr 03, 2004 1:50 pm

does anyone know some good tutorials for texturing low-poly spaceships? i found a bunch for organic low-polys, but they don´t work well with shapeships because everything gets distorted... i can´t get it right :(

i wanted to do stuff like this, it´s low-poly, but the textures add a lot of detail & make it look nice.
http://www.turbosquid.com/HTMLClient/Fu ... ullPreview

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#5 Post by pd » Sat Apr 03, 2004 3:16 pm

[...] the textures add a lot of detail & make it look nice.
of course they do.

to prevent distortion you need to set up the uvw coordinates right... if you use max you can use texporter or unwraptools to get them into a paint program, where you can start painting.

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#8 Post by Zanzibar » Sat Apr 03, 2004 6:07 pm

Scout 01

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I'll do mark 1 - 4 either later today or tomorrow.

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#9 Post by Hatti » Sat Apr 03, 2004 8:00 pm

Hi,

Base 01 and Scout 01 are very nice.
Colony 01, I don't know but to me it looks more like another Base

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#10 Post by Underling » Sat Apr 03, 2004 8:13 pm

Hatti wrote:Hi,

Base 01 and Scout 01 are very nice.
Colony 01, I don't know but to me it looks more like another Base

Regards, Hatti
I agree about base & scout. Pretty nice designs.

As for Colony 01, I think it might just be an orientation issue for the model. It looks as if the picture has the engines down, thus putting it in an orientatoion we expect for star bases rather than the horizontal orientation we normally see for ships.

Other than that, it looks great, too.

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#11 Post by Satyagraha » Sat Apr 03, 2004 8:51 pm

pd wrote:to prevent distortion you need to set up the uvw coordinates right... if you use max you can use texporter or unwraptools to get them into a paint program, where you can start painting.
i use maya with the standard UV texture editor. the problem is: if i use cylindrical or spherical mapping or try to texture multiple faces at once using planar mapping, there´s distortion. if i map each single face, it takes forever and getting all the seams right takes even longer. do you know a plugin for maya that can help here?

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#12 Post by drek » Sat Apr 03, 2004 9:03 pm

i use maya with the standard UV texture editor. the problem is: if i use cylindrical or spherical mapping or try to texture multiple faces at once using planar mapping, there´s distortion. if i map each single face, it takes forever and getting all the seams right takes even longer. do you know a plugin for maya that can help here?
Setting up textures correctly can be more difficult than actually modelling.

The "easy" way of doing it is to give each little component of the ship it's own texture map, allowing the details of the ship to be represented by geometry rather than drawn on textures. Since there's no requirement for low-poly models at this stage, that's the method I would use.

For low-poly models, there's a variety of tutorials on the 'net concerning UV mapping. It takes practice, skill, and maybe a little talent to do correctly.

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#13 Post by pd » Sat Apr 03, 2004 11:31 pm

i use maya with the standard UV texture editor. the problem is: if i use cylindrical or spherical mapping or try to texture multiple faces at once using planar mapping, there´s distortion. if i map each single face, it takes forever and getting all the seams right takes even longer. do you know a plugin for maya that can help here?
the standard mapping methods like planar, cubic, cylindrical, spherical are only a base to fit the general shape. you have to tweak them in the uv editor until stretching is (nearly) gone(this means moving vertexes edges and polys in uvw editor!). it's very helpful to apply a checkered map to the model while working on the uvws, because you can easily see the stretching on this in the viewports.

mapping each single face isn't a good idea, because you won't be able to paint on this.... the aim is always to have as few uv chunks as possible while still having minimal stretching. there are some plugins out there, automating the process of uvw setup, but they all are commercial and i don't trust them ;) i prefer setting my uvws up on my own *g*
Setting up textures correctly can be more difficult than actually modeling.
yes, it's an art for itself... i hated it when i started with it.. but nowadays it's the same fun as modeling to me.

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#14 Post by Zanzibar » Sun Apr 04, 2004 6:38 am

Yes, you guys are right, I totally figured out that I had done the colony ship completely wrong at work today... here's a much improved version:

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