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Plasma Cannons

#1 Post by Bigjoe5 » Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:00 pm

You know what annoys me about MoO2? Plasma Cannon is the best weapon. When you get Plasma Cannon you're pretty much set for the whole game. And if you defeat the gaurdian or scrap an Antaran ship and get Death Ray or Partical Beam, you're screwed.
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Re: Plasma Cannons

#2 Post by utilae » Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:31 pm

Phasors are better since they don't have to knock down all shields before hitting the hull. But if a planet has a planetary shield, then plasma cannons are the way to go.

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Re: Plasma Cannons

#3 Post by Bigjoe5 » Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:25 pm

Only if you don't have very many. In larger numbers, Plasma Cannons can cause massive destruction. Against a Barrier Shield, however, they are ineffective. Anything above Plasma Cannon will work, though.
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Re: Plasma Cannons

#4 Post by marhawkman » Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:39 am

Stellar Convertor!

Completely annihilates planetary shields. Usually in only one shot.
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Re: Plasma Cannons

#5 Post by MikkoM » Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:55 pm

marhawkman wrote:Stellar Convertor!

Completely annihilates planetary shields. Usually in only one shot.


I agree, Stellar Convertor is a true super weapon in MOO2.

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Re: Plasma Cannons

#6 Post by Bigjoe5 » Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:42 pm

True, it does do massive damage. And it destroys planets. :D

But you can fit 40 Plasma Cannons in it's place. :(

Anyway, the reason I'm kind of annoyed at Plasma Cannons being the best weapon was that I was in a real pickle, so I attacked the Gaurdian to get Xentronium Armor with the last vestiges of my fleet, but I also got Death Ray, which replaced my Plasma Cannons, so my planetary defenses got owned. :(
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Re: Plasma Cannons

#7 Post by utilae » Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:34 am

Phasors are superior to plasma cannons for pure damage cause they can go straight through shields (shield piercing) while plasma cannons waste most of their damage taking the shields down first. So unless there are planetary shields, then ironically phasors cannot penetrate them or even damage them. But plasma cannons can damage them.

And the stellar converter is a noob weapon lol. Though I must admit that having lots of cruisers with heavily refined stellar converters is uber fun.

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Re: Plasma Cannons

#8 Post by Bigjoe5 » Tue Oct 16, 2007 3:25 pm

utilae wrote:Phasors are superior to plasma cannons for pure damage cause they can go straight through shields (shield piercing) while plasma cannons waste most of their damage taking the shields down first. So unless there are planetary shields, then ironically phasors cannot penetrate them or even damage them. But plasma cannons can damage them.

Do we have the same version of MoO2?

If I have a Doom Star with 50 Plasma Cannons, it will always be able to destroy more ships than if it had 50 shield piercing Phasors. And Heavy Plasma Cannon can't pierce a Barrier Shield at all.
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Re: Plasma Cannons

#9 Post by yoshi » Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:16 am

phasors can only pierce shields when the ship being attacked doesnt have heavy shields. which also allows the ship equipped with them to have shields while in a nebula. incidentally i like death rays on my defenses since they prevent boarding of my space stations. the auto upgrade of weapons peeves me though because disruptors arent better then plasma canons in my opinion

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Re: Plasma Cannons

#10 Post by Krikkitone » Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:28 pm

Actually, the best weapon in MOO2 (Damage/Space) is Autofire Disruptors (the only problem is they need to be High energy focus+Heavy to get through strong planetary shields)

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Re: Plasma Cannons

#11 Post by utilae » Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:40 pm

This will explain in all detail why phasors are the best weapon in Moo2:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/mac/file/564290/1726

Excerpt:
Phasors

- As far as I can see, the two best weapons to use are phasors and
disruptors. Surprised? Yes! Phasors and Disruptors are the best
weapons by far!! (Recommended)
- The reason for this is that Phasors have the Shield Piercing mod
and the AutoFire mod.

a. Shield piercing

- This IGNORES the shields completely!

*-----
At this point I'd like to make a concept clear. A ship has 4 levels
of defense: Shield, Armor, Structure, and System. But when the
structure is destroyed, then the enemy ship is destroyed. So all
we want to target is just the structure!

Lvl1: Shield Bypassed by the shield piercing ability
Lvl2: Armor Bypassed by the Achilles system
Lvl3: Structure Nothing left to protect it

Understand now? Shield piercing allows your weapons to completely
go through the shield, unless they got hard shield, then there's
nothing we can do about it. Combined with the Achilles system, all
that's left of the enemy that's worth a darn is the structure.

So the lesson for today is that with the modifications that you've
see so far, all you are shooting at, IS the structure!!

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Re: Plasma Cannons

#12 Post by The Silent One » Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:43 am

However, if your opponent has hard shields, shield piercing is impossible and you're in trouble since phasors do only very little damage.
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Re: Plasma Cannons

#13 Post by utilae » Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:18 am

But in that case plasmas are still gonna take all shields down before they hit the ship, while phasors are the second strongest and only have to take one shield side down.

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Re: Plasma Cannons

#14 Post by Bigjoe5 » Sat Feb 23, 2008 6:18 pm

Regardless, plasma cannons are enveloping and therefore do much more damage after getting through the shields. I have blown up enemy doom stars with one plasma cannon when they were in a nebula because the achilles targeting unit pierces armor and targets systems and the structural analyzer makes it do triple damage AND it hits 4 shield faces, quadrupleing the chance of a warp core breach as soon as it gets past the shield.
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Re: Plasma Cannons

#15 Post by utilae » Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:42 pm

Bigjoe5 wrote:and the structural analyzer makes it do triple damage AND it hits 4 shield faces, quadrupleing the chance of a warp core breach as soon as it gets past the shield.

The structural analyzer only tripples the damage of weapons that ignore shields, eg phasors or EMG missiles. Bringing down the enemy shield does not count as the weapon ignonring or bypassing shields.


The only time plasma cannons are better then phasors is when the enemy has planetary shields. Cause phasors cannot do anything to them. But plasma cannons can.

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