minor/magnate civs?

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snakechia · #1 Post by **snakechia** » Tue Jul 29, 2003 2:42 pm

are there plans currently for minor/magnate civs which are unplayable by human players? I think we should be able to play any civ in the game.

Nightfish · #2 Post by **Nightfish** » Tue Jul 29, 2003 5:08 pm

I think minor races that can't be controlled by humans are a good idea but I doubt we'll decide this before we add the normal races which are among the last things we'll add. So, there'll probably be no decision about that this year.

snakechia · #4 Post by **snakechia** » Tue Jul 29, 2003 9:20 pm

well, it's like in medieval total war, there are a couple civs you cannot control, and I wonder why...I want to be able to play as anyone in the game. It doesn't make sense to me that I can't.

And like in Moo3 where you have some of the old races, but you can't play as them...why bother puting them in the game if I can't control them...even if they start out with huge penalties and have no chance of winning, I want the opportunity to lose as them.

Also in Moo3, one of the first things people wanted to do was to control the New Orions, but you can't.

Nightfish · #6 Post by **Nightfish** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 8:42 am

What does this have to do with magnate civs?

Nightfish · #8 Post by **Nightfish** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 12:22 pm

Reread what Snakechia said. He wanted to be able to play *any* race in the game. He does *not* want features that can't be controlled. (or if he does, it's not obvious in his posts)

OceanMachine · #10 Post by **OceanMachine** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 5:41 pm

Okarena wrote: But it should be very rare and occurs with P = .005 in the early phases of the game. And it should be a problem without any chance of solution. It may results in suffering and death. Hopeless.

<snip>

Perhaps that increase some frustration.

LOL, yeah, I'd say that would increase some frustration

Nightfish · #12 Post by **Nightfish** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 6:38 pm

I fail to see why a feature like: "no matter what you do you'll lose every 200th game" will help. Also for those of us who use windows we can just use normal crashes to simulate that.

Nightfish · #14 Post by **Nightfish** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 7:15 pm

There will always be mistakes to make. Do I build ships or do I continue improving my colonies? Do I research weapon techs or something more civil? So long as the player can make choices there'll be mistakes to make. We don't need to give pseudo-options like a modifcation making a weapon 4 times larger while cutting power in half. We simply don't need to clutter our screen with stuff like that.