assuming this wiki entry is correct (about the ship sizes):
http://www.freeorion.org/wiki/index.php ... scratchpad
i'd like to point out that dreadnoughts are actually larger than battleships in that (originally anyway) they were simply battleships that were made even bigger (the original one being called the HMS dreadnought: http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/sh-f ... rednt9.htm )
However on that lil scratchpad, the dreadnought is classed as being smaller than the Battleship.
Just a minor point.
minor point about ship sizes
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I am pretty sure that the Wiki is just a summary of what one person would like to see or a compilation of many people's suggestions. I very seriously doubt that it is set in stone yet and changes to that can be made.
The RPS (Rock-Paper-Scissors) diagram is also not a set in stone thing. We have a thread going right now to discuss a countering system.
The RPS (Rock-Paper-Scissors) diagram is also not a set in stone thing. We have a thread going right now to discuss a countering system.
200 and still a Wyrm!?! I don't want to be a Wyrm anymore. I've been a Wyrm for 100 posts now.
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Ranos, only things that are in the passed features thread are set in stone (well, at least till we stumble again over them making it necessary to change them ^^).
Away from that you should look into the credits for who's who in the development. If team leaders state something for their team it usually is correct (human errors allowed ^^).
Away from that you should look into the credits for who's who in the development. If team leaders state something for their team it usually is correct (human errors allowed ^^).
The wiki post is definitely just a collection of ideas form various places (I know, I wrote it (mostly)).
On the history front, agreed that Dreadnaughts were originally larger than previous "battleships" (labelled "pre-dreadnaught"). The Dreadnaught herself was so much better than any previous ship that she was essentially responsible for the naval arms race in the buildup to the first world war. However that race led to such a huge increase in size and power of ships, that by the end of the war the Dreadnaught was actually so outclassed by the newer ships (often classed as 'superdreadnaught'), that she was scrapped shortly after the war finished.
Since 'Battleship' is a fairly moveable term, that generally just refers to the largest most powerful gunships around (e.g. the Dreadnaughts were still called battleships), I just used the nice sounding word Dreadnaught to refer to the 'pocket battleship' or 'battlecruiser' concept (that the dreadnaught herself effectively became within a few years of her launch). (I.e. a ship not quite up to fighting real ships, but fast enough to avoid them and strong enough to trounce anything else.)
Perhaps Battlecruiser would have been a better choice.
On the history front, agreed that Dreadnaughts were originally larger than previous "battleships" (labelled "pre-dreadnaught"). The Dreadnaught herself was so much better than any previous ship that she was essentially responsible for the naval arms race in the buildup to the first world war. However that race led to such a huge increase in size and power of ships, that by the end of the war the Dreadnaught was actually so outclassed by the newer ships (often classed as 'superdreadnaught'), that she was scrapped shortly after the war finished.
Since 'Battleship' is a fairly moveable term, that generally just refers to the largest most powerful gunships around (e.g. the Dreadnaughts were still called battleships), I just used the nice sounding word Dreadnaught to refer to the 'pocket battleship' or 'battlecruiser' concept (that the dreadnaught herself effectively became within a few years of her launch). (I.e. a ship not quite up to fighting real ships, but fast enough to avoid them and strong enough to trounce anything else.)
Perhaps Battlecruiser would have been a better choice.
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Ship sizes
I never liked the term "battlecruiser", or other terms like "light cruiser, medium cruiser, heavy cruiser" as there are so many other ship sizes that could be substituted in between.
Such as....
- Figher
- Bomber
- Pinnace
- Sloop
- Corvette
- Frigate
- Destroyer
- Cruiser
- Battleship
- Titan
- Doom Star
Such as....
- Figher
- Bomber
- Pinnace
- Sloop
- Corvette
- Frigate
- Destroyer
- Cruiser
- Battleship
- Titan
- Doom Star
There are three kinds of people in this world - those who can count, and those who can't.
Re: Ship sizes
guiguibaah wrote:I never liked the term "battlecruiser", or other terms like "light cruiser, medium cruiser, heavy cruiser" as there are so many other ship sizes that could be substituted in between.
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- Cruiser
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- Battleship
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Though I take the point that there are enough names around that we don't need to use potentially confusing variations on the word cruiser.
Though since whatever set of names one chooses is going to confuse someone, and more probably many people, maybe to avoid slipping into heated discussion on irrelevancies, we should just stick to sizes 1 to blah, and worry about 'fluff' names later.